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Advanced Task Manager or Juice Defender?

« on: July 13, 2012, 11:59:52 PM »
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    I was researching some features today on Juice Defender and Advanced Task Manager... I also looked at Voltage Control compared to Antutu and SetCPU.

    I would like to get everyone's opinion and experience on apps used with the ROM's along with any special settings anyone has found to be beneficial.

    Personally, I've found that Juice Defender seems to save my battery life moreso than Advanced Task Manager... Now I know they are two separate applications, but I don't know if I'd want to use them together.

    Anyone else have any information? Maybe start a list of "utility" apps that provide the most prolific result?
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    Re: Advanced Task Manager or Juice Defender?

    « Reply #1 on: July 14, 2012, 06:09:19 AM »
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    Unless you buy an extended life battery the battery will constantly drain.its the nature of the beast.a task manager app is pointless as the android operating system will constantly reopen closed apps thus killing your battery.as for juice defender,well..I see the same results just from turning of my 3g data.

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    Re: Advanced Task Manager or Juice Defender?

    « Reply #2 on: July 18, 2012, 11:28:39 PM »
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    I understand the draining of the battery is inevitable. The reson for my post was not to dispute that any of these apps would beat the system and give you a magic battery or anything. It was merely an attempt at weighing the differences of apps that actually do two separate functions, but are utilized by some in the same manor.

    I have heard time and time again that the memory management of Android really makes Task Manager type apps useless. I personally feel that a lot of users would dispute that claim... telling accounts of how these apps have saved their battery power making their phone charge last longer. I personally don't like them and don't really use them.

    The owner of AndroidArea51 (Droidhost) likes to use Advanced Task Manager and says that, in his experiences, it "prolongs" the discharging of the battery when the phone is in standby mode because it closes the apps that stay resident in memory, thus saving processes that would normally drain said battery normally. I believe (and Droidhost, correct me if I'm wrong), he said his phone's battery life lasts for 3 days in stand-by mode.

    I, on the other hand, have been testing Juice Defender for a little over 5 days now and have found that Juice Defender, with it's ability to control the power consumption (not just turning off 3g) at the core of the phone (in more ways than just ending open processes), actually allows your battery's charge to be consumed a lot slower than normal. I have had my test phone, in standby mode (granted, it's not being used at the moment, just testing the Juice Defender app currently), for going on 5 full days now and the battery has only drained to a little under 50% of it's capacity. That, to me, is a huge difference between the two products.

    Now I am using Juice Defender Ultimate, as opposed to just Juice Defender Lite.

    Also, I wouldn't recommend the Task Manager apps, but to each his/her own. It's your phone, do with it as you please. Just as I believe that overclocking the phone is very usefull, just as I also believe that "swap" files are useless on the Android. On the roms here at AndroidArea51, it actually slowed the Precedent down to a crawl when trying to use a swap file.

    So, in closing... it definitely makes a difference based on how you use your phone, what you use it for, what you're willing to do to it, and how much time you're willing to spend on it. We all learn from experience... and these have been mine. Take from it what you will. Thanks.
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    Re: Advanced Task Manager or Juice Defender?

    « Reply #3 on: July 22, 2012, 02:15:28 PM »
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    i agree that task managers are pointless on android.this is not a PC and never will be.the task killers are actually harmful to the phones as they shut down things that should not be shut down.may i recommend watchdog?it has not been mentioned and it is in my experience worthwhile.it blacklists apps that consume massive amounts of ram and auto-kills them.
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    Re: Advanced Task Manager or Juice Defender?

    « Reply #4 on: July 27, 2012, 05:50:34 PM »
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    I myself was always confused about why the task manager was included for this very reason.

    However, "task killers" like AutoKiller (I think that's the name?) and SuperCharger tweak the system's base values for when to kill a program and are thus safe. SuperCharger used to work well and save battery but since the 3.2 release, well, whatever RC I was using caused sluggishness and battery drain. Give it a try if you're interested.
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    Re: Advanced Task Manager or Juice Defender?

    « Reply #5 on: August 05, 2012, 09:42:51 PM »
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     ::) :)is it user friendly?xD ;D ;)
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    Re: Advanced Task Manager or Juice Defender?

    « Reply #6 on: January 08, 2013, 06:16:05 PM »
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    I have used most of them,and I find them to be pointless on anything above eclair.the phone has a built in task manager that doesn't run in the background.I can't recommend any of them if you are on froyo or above.

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    Re: Advanced Task Manager or Juice Defender?

    « Reply #7 on: January 09, 2013, 05:28:29 AM »
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    Task killers shut down impirtant apps - I think thats why advanced task killer has an ignore list u can edit?

    And when using the precedent atk dose work. Sure widgets reopen, googleplus re opens, dolphin browser stays closed ect. And regular kill is great if you hit home alot and not back it is a good idea to run a task killer. If u hit back and close properly. Prolly no need. But remember most people also just yank out the jump drive instead of ejecting disc. So I assume MOST people need this.

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    Re: Advanced Task Manager or Juice Defender?

    « Reply #8 on: January 09, 2013, 07:41:33 PM »
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    Task killers shut down impirtant apps - I think thats why advanced task killer has an ignore list u can edit?<br /><br />And when using the precedent atk dose work. Sure widgets reopen, googleplus re opens, dolphin browser stays closed ect. And regular kill is great if you hit home alot and not back it is a good idea to run a task killer. If u hit back and close properly. Prolly no need. But remember most people also just yank out the jump drive instead of ejecting disc. So I assume MOST people need this.<br /><br />Sent from my SGH-T889
    Pre I have been using an app called fast reboot.it works similiar to a task killer but it seems to work better.

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    Re: Advanced Task Manager or Juice Defender?

    « Reply #9 on: January 15, 2013, 04:03:47 PM »
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    If it dose hot booting, [reloading the os after boot ani], then rom toolbox dose the same. Honestly I have found no good use for this feature other than to avoid system freezes. Which cm7.1 dose automaticly.

    Tell me how your milage has varied please

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    Re: Advanced Task Manager or Juice Defender?

    « Reply #10 on: January 16, 2013, 03:53:50 AM »
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    I just saw this on another thread on another forum
    "id be cautious of the fast boot, as far as ive read its like pullin the plug on a pc.
    maybe force stopping the app would work n be just as fast.
    plenty better players out there anyway as prepay says."
    Credible idk
    I'll research
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