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« on: April 11, 2013, 07:31:02 PM »
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    I've been reading everything on this board about trying to 'Root' the i827 appeal.
    I even tried to figure out the post 'All things Root'.

    I tried to follow the instructions about 'Odin' and the rest, but have no luck since I'm on a Mac and had to boot into Windows to use the program.

    I got to the 'recovery mode" screen and did the "apply update from sd card" using the 'update.zip', it ran then I got...

    E:signature verification failed
    install_package = (2)
    Installation aborted

    Like I said I'm so new I'm still wet and have no idea what I'm doing, but I can follow instructions, so help me if you can.

    Thanks __Thom

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    « Reply #1 on: April 11, 2013, 10:06:57 PM »
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    The problem is that you need to use Odin to flash the first version of CWM onto your phone. Only then can you use the "Apply update" option. I am unsure how to use Odin on a Mac, but that explains why you're having problems.

    I'd suggest using a PC to perform the root, if you have access to one. Otherwise, perhaps you need to wait until someone who knows more about Macs.
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    « Reply #2 on: April 11, 2013, 10:38:42 PM »
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    thanks for the reply.

    I tried to flash with Odin using VMware Fusion that opens Windows on my Mac, but the 'recovery.img' wouldn't load in the 'PDA' as instructed.

    Since I really am a newbie at this, I think I need more step by step instructions. I don't know how to install Clockwork Mod or even what it is.

    I don't want to screw up my new phone. I just want to get rid of a bunch of unwanted apps. I bought 'Titanium Backup', but my Gingerbread 2.3.6 needs to be rooted and I don't have a clue how except from stuff I've found by 'Googling' which lead me to this forum.

    Help if you can.  --- Thanks __Thom
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    « Reply #3 on: April 11, 2013, 10:51:13 PM »
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    Its been a while since i used Heimdall but this works on linux should work in OS X.
    So double check this B4 you try it.

    1) Download Heimdall:
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    2) Install and reboot your Mac.

    3) Download Appeal Root update.zip and put it in the root of your SD card.

    4) Download and unpack the "Appeal.cwm.5028.3.tar" or "Appeal_cwm_6012.2.zip"
    Place the recovery.img fro the zip or tar file in an easy to find place on your computer

    5) Open terminal and Restart your device in download mode and plug it in your computer.

    6) In Terminal, type (without the quotes) "heidall detect" Terminal will return "Device detected"

    7) Then type "heimdall flash --recovery <path to the recovery.img>"

    8) Shut the device down and boot to recovery mode (T + power)

    9) Choose "apply update from sd card"

    10) Reboot and enjoy!
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    « Reply #4 on: April 11, 2013, 11:58:47 PM »
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    Thanks for the info Maddog. I hope I can do this without what you folks say, bricking my phone.

    Any other suggestions from anyone will be HIGHLY appreciated.

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    « Reply #5 on: April 12, 2013, 12:19:52 AM »
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    thanks for the reply.

    I tried to flash with Odin using VMware Fusion that opens Windows on my Mac, but the 'recovery.img' wouldn't load in the 'PDA' as instructed.

    Since I really am a newbie at this, I think I need more step by step instructions. I don't know how to install Clockwork Mod or even what it is.

    I don't want to screw up my new phone. I just want to get rid of a bunch of unwanted apps. I bought 'Titanium Backup', but my Gingerbread 2.3.6 needs to be rooted and I don't have a clue how except from stuff I've found by 'Googling' which lead me to this forum.

    Help if you can.  --- Thanks __Thom

    If you still want to try using Odin via VMware, try these instructions:

    1) First, you'll need to download CWM5v3 AND the Root update from the All Things Root page. Here is the link:
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    To be clear, you should now have 2 files: Appeal.cwm.5028.3.tar AND update.zip

    2) Plug your phone into your computer with a verified working USB cable.

    3) Enter USB storage mode on your phone, then copy update.zip to your SD card.

    4) Exit USB storage mode, then turn your phone completely off. Leave the phone plugged in to your computer.

    5) Press and hold the Vol-Down button then turn your phone on. Keep the Vol-Down button held down. Your phone should boot into Download mode.

    6) The phone will give you a warning about a custom OS. To continue, press Vol-Up.

    7) Windows should detect and download the appropriate drivers for your phone.

    8) Run Odin, and your phone should be detected.

    9) Choose the PDA option, and select the .tar file that was downloaded from the link above. Do not extract the recovery.img file from the .tar you downloaded.

    10) Hit Start on Odin, and it should flash CWM5 onto your phone. It may take a minute or two, so try not to panic if things seem to be frozen.

    11) When complete, power off your phone, and close Odin.

    12) Press and hold T on your phone, and power it back on. You will enter your new CWM Recovery mode.

    13) Use the Volume and Home keys to select install zip from sdcard.

    14) Select the update.zip that you copied earlier. When asked if you're sure you want to update, select Yes. Wait for the update to be applied. This one shouldn't take very long.

    15) Restart your phone, and if everything worked out, it should be perfectly fine, and completely Rooted! Congrats!
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    Re: Brand new Guy... Dumb as a Rock about Phones

    « Reply #6 on: April 12, 2013, 07:53:54 AM »
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    Thanks a lot Shorrrt for the info.

    I downloaded Heimdall 1.3.1 last night.

    I now can use either 'Odin' or 'Heimdall'.  I one safer/better than the other??

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    « Reply #7 on: April 12, 2013, 10:42:51 AM »
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      Deeper down the rabbit hole!!!!
    Odin is leaked Samsung software, heimdall is built to serve the same purpose but uses different USB drivers, I would say neither is really safer or less safe than the other, Odin only works with windows whereas heimdall is multi platform

    from what I read with your Odin attempt through vm ware windows you were using recovery.img... you want the .tar file for Odin that shorrrt posted as Odin will only flash .tar if I'm not mistaken...

     maybe I'll do a YouTube video tutorial to make this easier for the new and scared to understand... I've been there myself, once you get past that first time you start modding everything you own lol... when you're new and scared you tend to over analyze a bit our second guess what you're about to do at the absolute worst time,and that's when bricks and disaster strikes, research, get a grasp on what your doing, gather all required files, know the risks, and be comfortable with the fact that there's always a possibility you could ruin your shiny new electronics and your modding experience will go much smoother.

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    « Reply #8 on: April 12, 2013, 11:04:38 AM »
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    Wow KRaZy WaKa, a video would be great for us numb-skulls.

    If I can help let me know, I produce film and video for a living and have all the pro tools.

    You can send me a detailed script/explanation for the novices and I'll work with you to make the video.

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    « Reply #9 on: April 12, 2013, 01:34:56 PM »
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    just gonna be a simple screen capture video tutorial, nothing too intense, so I think I got it, not worried about making it professional lol, just a visual aid

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    I hope I'm not in trouble.

    I followed all the instruction for Odin using VMware fusion.
    After I tried to 'install update from sdcard'- the screen went black when I pressed the power button to select.

    When I pressed the power button again the screen came back, but wouldn't react to any commands pressed.
    It would just switch back to the black screen.

    This text was at the bottom of the screen.

    E:Missing bitmap icon_clockworks
    (Code -1)
    E:Missing bitmap icon_firmware_install
    (Code -1)
    E:Missing bitmap icon_firware_error
    (Code -1)
    CWM-based Recovery v5.0.2.8

    Now when I start the phone there's a 'Yellow triangle with an Exclamation Mark' below the Samsung Logo.

    Please Advise __Thom

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    I hope I'm not in trouble.

    I followed all the instruction for Odin using VMware fusion.
    After I tried to 'install update from sdcard'- the screen went black when I pressed the power button to select.

    When I pressed the power button again the screen came back, but wouldn't react to any commands pressed.
    It would just switch back to the black screen.

    This text was at the bottom of the screen.

    E:Missing bitmap icon_clockworks
    (Code -1)
    E:Missing bitmap icon_firmware_install
    (Code -1)
    E:Missing bitmap icon_firware_error
    (Code -1)
    CWM-based Recovery v5.0.2.8

    Now when I start the phone there's a 'Yellow triangle with an Exclamation Mark' below the Samsung Logo.

    Please Advise __Thom

    You were meant to press the Home button to select/confirm, not the Power Button.

    As for the missing bitmaps, those are not a problem.

    The yellow exclamation mark is just Samsung's way of saying you've modded the OS, and is completely normal. So, no worries there.

    If you haven't already tried to apply the update.zip again, go ahead and install it using the Home Key instead of Power Key.

    Once you restart your phone again, open up Titanium Backup, and see if it says you're rooted. SuperSU should open asking for permissions. Everything should be perfect.
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    « Reply #12 on: April 12, 2013, 04:29:25 PM »
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      Deeper down the rabbit hole!!!!
    the yellow triangle just means you're phone has been flashed with unofficial software no worries there, its I kind of like a warranty sticker over a screw hole that when you peel it, it leaves behind part of the sticker with the word void all over it, its the manufacturers first line of denial when something is wrong with your phone lol, if for any reason that comes up they can say "I don't have to fix this its your problem now." but that's all the triangle is, a "custom flash" warning nothing more...the bitmap warnings are also not anything to worry about when motorhead built the first version of CWM for the appeal he didn't put in the graphics, those errors are just saying it can't find the graphics because they aren't there... as far as not being able to select stuff, there were some bugs with the earlier versions of CWM so depending on which build you flashed try the power button, the home soft key under the screen or the ok button on the slide out keyboard, the ok button and power button shouldn't cause any issue, I sometimes had to tap the home key twice in the earlier builds to select in recovery... the first press would make the screen go black then hit it again and it will select what you last had highlighted... I suggest using the ok button on the keyboard until you flash the CWM v6.0.1.2 update zip as I can't remember ever having an issue using it, but once you get CWM v6 flashed those issues go away and you can use home or power without issue

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      Deeper down the rabbit hole!!!!
    thanks again shorrrt, you've been a big help on the appeal forums, I should have a pre release ROM out for you VIPs soon, gonna be extremely basic, saving the theming and graphical stuff for the official release

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    Hey Guys... It is now rooted... BUT...

    Niether of the 'Select Buttons" suggested worked, so moving ahead with NO FEAR...
    ... I thought it maybe worth a shot to hit the 'Return Key'...... SHAZAM!!!

    Thanks for the lessons everyone. After some more study I'll move to step 2, what ever that is.

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    Re: Brand new Guy... Dumb as a Rock about Phones

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    lol that could have been my mistake, it's been so long since I've used anything but the power key, it was probably the return key and not the ok  key that I was using anyway lol, my bad and way to go on the go for it attitude lol... and the second step would be to wait a bit longer for my custom ROM to release. but until then check out the sticky threads in the appeal section there is a how to posted to change your boot animation, and you can play around with root apps on the play store, I recommend Es file explorer for browsing your phones file system, and titanium backup is a great app to use for backing up your apps and data, other than that browse around and see what other people are using to handle everyday tasks

    It's addictive man, hope you don't own a Wii PS3 or xbox lmao... I started with ps3 modding, I've done a couple wii's for friends
    and then went to Androids, haven't done a 360 yet, but I recently swap modded a ps2 lol, and I'm really hoping to get my hands on an original xbox again cuz there's lots you can do with them.
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    Glad to have a support team to back my files up ;D. Krazy was close with the bitmaps, that was all CWMs fault. On build 2 I forced them into place from their home, so it cleared the error. Build 2 also may have had the corrected keymap, I forget, but build 3 is the most complete. However even from build 1 you may be able to flash CWM6, which I highly recommend using (build 3 is known working for installing CWM6 though).
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    My next step.


    Should I get ROM Manager or is there something better?




    Also: I can't seem to add a 'Signature' to my profile. 
    I type/paste in the words but they disappear when I hit 'Save Profile/Changes"
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    my bad motorhead lol, either way it was looking for graphics that weren't there hence the error lol no big deal they aren't important just make it look not so blame and to be honest I didn't notice the difference between the build with graphics and the one without

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    do not get ROM manager, it has a tendency to brick unsupported phones in the hands of newbs, I don't use it myself, there is another member who uses it on his appeal for something, I don't know what it's useful for, but you could browse around the forums here and find out who it was and ask him lol... I think it might have been mccabet, but my ROM will be a simple flash through CWM similar to flashing the root update.

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    I don't know what it's useful for, but you could browse around the forums here and find out who it was and ask him lol... I think it might have been mccabet, but my ROM will be a simple flash through CWM similar to flashing the root update.

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    Agree, fixing permissions and booting directly to cwm recovery is about as useful as it gets on this phone, most all other function( D/L Gapps and such ) you can get from other apps or from recovery its self.

    I got the Premium ver. from other phones I have that share the same Google account and its not hard to set up on the APPEAL, but again its not very useful on this phone for now.
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    I don't know what it's useful for, but you could browse around the forums here and find out who it was and ask him lol... I think it might have been mccabet, but my ROM will be a simple flash through CWM similar to flashing the root update.

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    Agree, fixing permissions and booting directly to cwm recovery is about as useful as it gets on this phone, most all other function( D/L Gapps and such ) you can get from other apps or from recovery its self.

    I got the Premium ver. from other phones I have that share the same Google account and its not hard to set up on the APPEAL, but again its not very useful on this phone for now.

    Koush, as good as he is, is an @$$ about adding devices that are not well known, so I won't be contacting him :).
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