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Author Topic: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to  

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Update: See below for my 10 step, 10 minute guide on getting 1gb usuable app space.   :o


 I'm new to android, only having a phone for 3 days now... so be gentle (Quite frankly, I'm very impressed that I haven't bricked it yet :)

As you're probably aware if you're reading this forum, this phone has a miniscule area for installing apps - less than 100mb free on a stock phone. So, I've rooted, CWM'd, and have a clockwork backup, and I'm familiar enough now with adb that I can shell and push/pull files.  I'm a little rusty with Linux... but I can get around and compile OK.  Anyway, from what I can tell, this phone has a 2gb nand chip which is split into many partitions:

cat /proc/partitions:
 179        0    1908736 mmcblk0    <-- 1 nand chip - 2gb?
<snipped>
 179       14     389120 mmcblk0p14   <-- system is mounted from here
<snipped>
179       20    1048576 mmcblk0p20  <-- pegged for "internal storage" - (pictues, music - NOT apps)
179       21     163840 mmcblk0p21  <-- data partition mounted from here, for app installs
179       32    3872256 mmcblk1       <-- external SD card

Most of the filesytems are mounted as ext4... but the 'internal storage' p20 partition is vfat, presumably so that windows can transfer files to it nicely over USB.

Assuming I didn't want an 'internal storage' section (and I've already managed to have it unmounted and still boot and use the phone), couldn't I just repartition p20 and p21 to be 1.2g, ext4, and mount it to /data ? Is it that simple, or is there something obvious I'm missing?

I'm fighting right now with trying to mount the nandroid boot.img file. Any tips?
Unfortunately, I seemed to have picked Ubuntu for my last forage into Linuxland, with no native yaffs2 support. (why does it always feel like I'm going down the rabbit hole with I need to mess with linux. sigh).



12/30 update:
And down the rabbit hole we went... 10 hours later of playing around with boot.img (I actually did get my flashes to work after a lot of pain) and the system vold.fstab table, and init.rc and I finally got fed up and took the shortcut. Here you go:

Make sure your 'internal memory' partition is pretty clean. We're going to shrink it from 1gb to around 160mb. Anything in bold, is something you type.

1) Root the phone and install CWM from the one click update in these forums

2)  Did you complete step #1? DON'T go any further until you do. Clockwork mod is not optional! Use clockwork mod to make a full backup of your phone. You can store it on the 4gb chip that comes with the phone. The backup is fairly small.

3) adb reboot recovery

4) after the reboot...
adb shell
cat /proc/partitions
The last 4 lines for mmcblk0 must look like this. If they do not, then DON'T continue if you're blindly following steps.
For example, if you don't have a p23, or have a p24 0 - don't continue.
 179       20    1048576 mmcblk0p20
 179       21     163840 mmcblk0p21
 179       22      16384 mmcblk0p22
 179       23       4096 mmcblk0p23

#delete the last 4 partitions on the internal memory nand chip
5) fdisk /dev/block/mmcblk0
print all
d (after pressing return, it will ask for a number)
 20
d
 20
d
 20
d
 20
w

6) adb reboot recovery

#create new partitions with the space layout we want
7) after the reboot...
adb shell
print all  - you should only see 19 partitions returned! If you still see 23, you didn't complete step #5 correctly, or possibly your phone isn't rooted.
fdisk /dev/block/mmcblk0
n (after pressing return, it will ask for a number. Press return after the 1st number and it will ask for a 2nd number)
84482
 105731
n
105733
236030
n
236032
238079
n
238081
238592
w

#not even sure if this is necessary...
adb shell
mke2fs -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p21
mke2fs -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p22
mke2fs -t fat32 /dev/block/mmcblk0p20

9) adb reboot recovery

10) full nandroid restore. Reboot, and you're done. 1gb of usuable space for app storage. "internal memory" for pictures, etc is around 160mb.

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Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

« Reply #1 » Published on:January 04, 2014, 12:57:33 PM

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Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

« Reply #2 » Published on:January 05, 2014, 11:36:58 AM

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It's really pretty simple. You're using ADB to shell into the phone. It then uses the fdisk command to delete, and then recreate the last 4 memory partitions -  basically swapping the 'internal memory' partition with the 'system memory' partition.

After the hack, you'll have around 1gb for app installs, and ~160mb for internal memory. (browsers like to cache here... a few other things).

What part is confusing, I will try and elaborate on it?

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Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

« Reply #3 » Published on:January 05, 2014, 12:24:28 PM

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If you could put all of your commands in bold that would be awesome. I've only used adb a couple of times, and am not fully familiar with the syntax. Thanks for this post.
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Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

« Reply #4 » Published on:January 05, 2014, 10:48:15 PM

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Welp, I've done it. There were a few things I noticed along the way that weren't in the guide, and I'd like to point those out here:

Step 4:
There is in fact an extra line after "179       23       4096 mmcblk0p23", which was something similar to "179       32       4096 mmcblk0p32"

Step 5:
After entering "w", you have to Ctrl+C to get out of shell then enter "adb reboot recovery".
If I remember correctly there was also a notification similar to "disk tables not the same, device is busy" something something. It actually freaked me out, but I decided to continue anyway. Note that another Ctrl+C was needed here as well since we're still in shell.

Step 7:
Basically the same as Step 5. Required another Ctrl+C to exit shell.

Step 8:
Another Ctrl+C to exit shell.

Step 10:
While in Recovery, I followed that same steps as if I were going to install a new ROM or restore a backup.
Wipe data/factory restore
Wipe cache
Mounts and Storage > Format everything except SDCard
Advanced > Wipe Dalvik Cache

Backup and Restore > Restore > AreaRomV1.0-Default  (that's what I named my default ROM backup. Yours may be a date/time format).

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Immediately after following this guide I went into Settings > Applications > Manage Applications. The free memory was as follows:

System Memory = 0.90GB free (77MB used)
Internal Memory = 166MB free (208KB used)

So I must say thank you very much for this guide and your contribution to users of this phone.  ;D
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Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

« Reply #5 » Published on:January 10, 2014, 02:58:08 PM

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Thx rjgee, repartitioned my phone last night. I recalculated the start/end cylinders so I have ~670MB of data & 512MB internal storage. Can't thank you enough for all your hard work.

PS- you can type *exit* & hit enter instead of CTRL+C, just sayin'
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Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

« Reply #6 » Published on:January 12, 2014, 04:29:02 PM

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Hello, thanks for the step by step instructions, but I don't seem to have 'fdisk' in my path when in the adb shell.  I am using the stock firmware (rooted with the one-click method and CWM installed).  Step #4 (listing the current partitions) worked fine and had the expected results you mentioned.

I was a bit confused at step #3 however.  I ran the 'adb reboot recovery' and the phone rebooted to the CWM screen, at which point I had to select the 'reboot...' option from the menu before the 'adb wait-for-device' would see the phone again.  Was there another selection I should have made while the CWM menu was up?

I'm thinking if the instructions were written with the nandroid firmware in mind, there might be some extra commands included in there that are not in the stock firmware...
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Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

« Reply #7 » Published on:January 13, 2014, 10:32:41 AM

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I am trying this but every time for some reason it doesn't recognize the command for fdisk. A little clearer steps would be nice if possible.
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Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

« Reply #8 » Published on:January 13, 2014, 02:34:55 PM

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I haven't got any clarification on that same question yet, but based on my searching other forums I think we may need to install a busybox app on our phones to get all of the required commands at the shell.  The nandroid firmware (that I think others are using) may already have busybox installed.

I'm thinking I will try one of the busybox apps off of the google play store later tonight, if I don't hear back from anyone...I'll let you know how it goes.
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Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

« Reply #9 » Published on:January 13, 2014, 06:46:57 PM

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I was able to do the partitioning just fine with the rooting/cwm tools and AreaRom Dynamic from this site. I'm not sure what the confusion or issues are, but just in case this is it - make sure you're not closing the command prompt during this process. Technically you *can*, but you'll lose track of the 'logs' that leaving it open would provide. If I remember correctly the 'fdisk' command would be entered while still in shell mode.
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Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

« Reply #10 » Published on:January 14, 2014, 01:04:20 AM

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I installed one of the busybox apps from the play store (tried tinybox first but the screen format made it unusable).  After it placed the added commands on the phone, I was able to find 'fdisk' (plus other commands) in the adb shell.  Prior to installing busybox, I checked and there were no 'fdisk' executables on the phone...so if you are indeed using the stock firmware, you'll need to install busybox first.

That said, the outlined steps worked like a charm and now there's 0.94GB left to install apps.
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Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

« Reply #11 » Published on:January 14, 2014, 02:01:01 AM

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Oh, you were still on stock. That explains it. :)
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Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

« Reply #12 » Published on:January 16, 2014, 04:49:44 PM

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I am sure this works, but do not try it using a linux terminal on your phone. I did that and am currently stuck at the reboot after deleting the partition. Now I am downloading adt bundle to get the adb shell ability so I can get into my phone and fix this. Basically bricked the phone for now. Hopefully I can get out
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Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

« Reply #13 » Published on:January 16, 2014, 06:00:05 PM

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This is meant to be done using adb only, not a simple terminal or cmd prompt. ;)
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Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

« Reply #14 » Published on:January 16, 2014, 06:33:08 PM

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So I went in and was able to complete it but I am not seeing anything changing, still stuck on the LG screen
Any ideas?
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Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

« Reply #15 » Published on:January 16, 2014, 06:36:29 PM

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If you repartitioned successfully you'll need to do a restore of one of your backups (I'm just assuming that's the reason why you're stuck on the LG screen).
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Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

« Reply #16 » Published on:February 18, 2014, 05:48:41 PM

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This may sound like a stupid question but be that as it may, I'm lost. Where do I enter in the commands? Phone has been rooted, and I want to partition the memory but need to know where the steps start.
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Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

« Reply #17 » Published on:February 22, 2014, 09:07:50 PM

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Hey guys. I was able to root this phone, install Arearom Dynamic 1.0, and I wanted to get the room talked about in this page. I went through and followed the directions and when I did the last reboot my phone went into emergency mode. I have tried everything I can to get it out of it. Nothing is recognizing the phone or anything. Is there anything I can do?

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Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

« Reply #18 » Published on:February 23, 2014, 09:05:46 PM

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This may sound like a stupid question but be that as it may, I'm lost. Where do I enter in the commands? Phone has been rooted, and I want to partition the memory but need to know where the steps start.

The commands are entered into cmd prompt in Windows (Win + R > Type cmd > press Enter). ADB has to be installed or you could do a cd to the folder where adb.exe is in the folder with the root tool.
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« Reply #19 » Published on:February 24, 2014, 07:54:12 AM

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I ended up taking back and exchanging my bricked phone. I have it rooted again and loaded with the Area 51 rom. I got the guts again and went and tried the memory hack again. Got this error when I went to repartition....

Command (m for help): n
n
First cylinder (259-238592, default 259): 84482
84482
No free sectors available

Can anyone help me with this?
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« Reply #20 » Published on:February 24, 2014, 10:45:53 AM

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Pardon my lack of understanding on a well charted post but I'm very new to phone mods, as in forum surfing for the last couple of weeks. Are these steps done on computer while phone is connected via USB? or in the phones system? I'm guessing pc is involved. If so what mods if anycan I make without a comp (root, memory adjustments, etc) my only concern is losing my data. W/o a way to backup (no comp atm) I'm just trying to buy time until comp is up and running again. I'm sure the answer is somewhere in this and many other forums but that's actually my biggest problem, 10,000 posts and solutions that more often contradict ea other.  It seems you have a solid grasp on this so I'm hoping to use your information.
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Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

« Reply #21 » Published on:February 25, 2014, 02:07:45 PM

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Pardon my lack of understanding on a well charted post but I'm very new to phone mods, as in forum surfing for the last couple of weeks. Are these steps done on computer while phone is connected via USB? or in the phones system? I'm guessing pc is involved. If so what mods if anycan I make without a comp (root, memory adjustments, etc) my only concern is losing my data. W/o a way to backup (no comp atm) I'm just trying to buy time until comp is up and running again. I'm sure the answer is somewhere in this and many other forums but that's actually my biggest problem, 10,000 posts and solutions that more often contradict ea other.  It seems you have a solid grasp on this so I'm hoping to use your information.

The steps in this post are done (and can only be done) on a computer with the phone connected via USB with USB Debugging enabled in the phone's Settings. Note that the steps in this post are for the confident/advanced users, and much caution should be taken. I did this b/c I got my phone for free as a hand-me-down and it doesn't have service, so I was willing to take the risk for learning purposes - which paid off for me.

Root, memory adjustments, ROM/App creation (and some other things I'm sure) can only be done on a computer.

If you're rooted w/ a recovery (ClockworkMod Recovery, TWRP, etc) then you won't *really* need a computer, but you'll need a computer to get rooted in the first place.
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« Reply #22 » Published on:February 27, 2014, 08:14:16 PM

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I followed all of the steps and it worked up to the point where i need to restore. There is either no backup found or it can't mount emmc. Anyone have any suggestions?
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« Reply #23 » Published on:February 28, 2014, 02:42:25 PM

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Nevermind, we got her working. It managed to find the backup not even sure what I did. Thank you for this guide.
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« Reply #24 » Published on:March 04, 2014, 02:42:10 PM

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