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Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2014, 01:10:58 AM »
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    Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

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    Many thanks to  rjgee for this! This is a really good guide even though it's missing some implied steps (the stuff noted by SLeePYG72786, actually).

    I've gone from having no experience with Android (the first one I used was a niece's Nook around last Christmas but I never "played" with it) and finding myself with a device from Tracfone which, for all practical purposes, cannot have apps installed (not that I'm complaining as this was $25 on Amazon and I intend it to replace an You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login with reduced battery capacity due to having been through a washing machine twice  :-[ ) to having rooted this phone and finding myself, after applying this hack, with a considerably more functional Android phone in just a few hours.

    Any idea why Tracfone chose to partition the internal storage the way they did? Is it simply to cripple this phone or is it supposed to serve some other purpose?

    In any case, I'm very grateful for this little hack.
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    Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

    « Reply #27 on: March 07, 2014, 10:01:57 PM »
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    Many thanks to  rjgee for this! This is a really good guide even though it's missing some implied steps (the stuff noted by SLeePYG72786, actually).

    I've gone from having no experience with Android (the first one I used was a niece's Nook around last Christmas but I never "played" with it) and finding myself with a device from Tracfone which, for all practical purposes, cannot have apps installed (not that I'm complaining as this was $25 on Amazon and I intend it to replace an You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login with reduced battery capacity due to having been through a washing machine twice  :-[ ) to having rooted this phone and finding myself, after applying this hack, with a considerably more functional Android phone in just a few hours.

    Any idea why Tracfone chose to partition the internal storage the way they did? Is it simply to cripple this phone or is it supposed to serve some other purpose?

    In any case, I'm very grateful for this little hack.

    Very glad I could be of some help in some way. I figured there would be more less experience people coming here (like myself), and that I would help point out some things that others may not know.

    I think they crippled this phone intentionally personally.
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    Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

    « Reply #28 on: March 07, 2014, 11:07:52 PM »
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    Many thanks to  rjgee for this! This is a really good guide even though it's missing some implied steps (the stuff noted by SLeePYG72786, actually).

    I've gone from having no experience with Android (the first one I used was a niece's Nook around last Christmas but I never "played" with it) and finding myself with a device from Tracfone which, for all practical purposes, cannot have apps installed (not that I'm complaining as this was $25 on Amazon and I intend it to replace an You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login with reduced battery capacity due to having been through a washing machine twice  :-[ ) to having rooted this phone and finding myself, after applying this hack, with a considerably more functional Android phone in just a few hours.

    Any idea why Tracfone chose to partition the internal storage the way they did? Is it simply to cripple this phone or is it supposed to serve some other purpose?

    In any case, I'm very grateful for this little hack.

    Very glad I could be of some help in some way. I figured there would be more less experience people coming here (like myself), and that I would help point out some things that others may not know.

    I think they crippled this phone intentionally personally.

    It would be consistent with my previous experience with Tracfone phones. However, if you don't use a telephone much, they are cheap with the pay-as-you-go option.

    Installing several small apps and Angry Birds (the L38C's screen is really not a good size for a game like this so I'm not even that interested in it, even without considering the procrastination potential, but I just wanted to see what this device can do) plus the updates to the apps in the stock software that the Google Play Store wants to do to keep them up to date is about enough to max out the allocated space.

    When I decided to get this I intended to not use the data plan minutes and I was hoping to find a way to turn it into a soft phone while I'm in range of a wifi access point making use of my Google Voice number. It looks like that will be possible with Groove IP Lite but only for a little while because Google is going to remove the relevant access API. I'm hoping that Google will update the Android Hangouts app to integrate voice like they apparently have done with the iOS Hangouts app so that I can use that instead of Groove IP.

    Looking at the estimated data use for Groove IP it looks like using up the data plan for VoIP (instead of using only wifi for VoIP) might be a better deal than I thought (they claim 1.2 Mb/min.). This is something I had dismissed out of hand under the assumption that VoIP would burn up the data plan with vertiginous speed.

    Anyway, any such experimentation with various uses for the phone becomes awkward if one can't really install anything due to lack of space.
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    Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

    « Reply #29 on: March 08, 2014, 08:53:10 AM »
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    I would love to use my phone with Google Voice, but since it has no number (no plan) it won't work. I don't want something that's only gonna be temporary, and surely there is a way to get GV to work. Just don't know how yet.
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    Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

    « Reply #30 on: March 08, 2014, 09:29:51 AM »
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    I would love to use my phone with Google Voice, but since it has no number (no plan) it won't work. I don't want something that's only gonna be temporary, and surely there is a way to get GV to work. Just don't know how yet.

    Getting a Google Voice number should be easy enough to do. As you say, the setup with Grrove IP (or similar programs) will be temporary, though, because of Google's upcoming change in access policy.

    Or do you mean that your phone has no plan? I don't think you should need one (though, obviously, it would only work only over wifi and not over cellular networks).

    Mine finally has a plan because I finally got around to activating it and transferring my phone number from my old phone  (I had no problems). One more thing I will say about Tracfone is that it is inexplicable is why they don't have information about their account tracking app and widget (they allow you to track your minutes, etc.) in large friendly letters everywhere. I knew about it because I did my research before buying it but, as far as I can tell, it's not in any manual that is enclosed with this phone package nor is it mentioned in the main Tracfone information webpages about this phone. Not only should this information be prominently displayed but the app itself should come pre-installed (if they've managed to brand it with a start-up animation and sound, they should be able to pre-install once lousy app)

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    Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

    « Reply #31 on: March 09, 2014, 08:17:54 AM »
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    I have a GV # on my PC, and I want to work on my phone over WiFi. A "soft phone" for home-use only.
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    Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

    « Reply #32 on: March 09, 2014, 05:21:44 PM »
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    I have a GV # on my PC, and I want to work on my phone over WiFi. A "soft phone" for home-use only.

    I've been basically testing this scenario at the moment. I have already given up on Groove IP for being too quirky and unreliable. I am now trying You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login which seems to be the only available option other than SIP based options (and, despite the availability of some guides for this, I have not been able to figure how to configure such solutions with the L38C so I am not sure that they are an option for me). This app is still quirky but, so far, seems like it might work better than Groove IP.

    One notable issue I have is the awkwardness when receiving calls at my Google Voice number of the call being forwarded to my Tracfone number so that the regular phone app picks up the call after the phone for Google Voice and Gtalk app picks it up. This means that, at some point, both apps will be vying for my attention and I will be forced to dismiss the regular phone app to gain access to the VoIP app option. I do not know how to get around this issue (other than uninstalling the regular phone app but that would leave me without a phone when I am not within range of an open wifi access point).

    Another issue is that, even though I can receive text messages through Google voice which get read by the VoIP app, I still get charged when the messages get forwarded to my Tracfone number. I could trivially solve this issue by not enabling the SMS forwarding to my Tracfone number but being able to receive messages at my telephone even when I am not within the range of an open wifi access point is too valuable to give up so I will have to live with this.
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    Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

    « Reply #33 on: March 10, 2014, 07:59:45 AM »
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    We should probably start another thread to keep from side railing this one. I use Talkatone but as said we lose it May 15th. You will have to have a working phone to use the Google number which makes this service useless to me. It will only be good for disposable numbers which makes it good for shady uses.
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    This thread will become a lot more active now that the 38c was on slickdeals a few days ago.  I just got mine from that forum and followed the OP.  Everything worked (except when I tried to use "w" on the fdisk, it always failed).  Now I can install apps without worry.  Thanks!
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    Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

    « Reply #35 on: March 15, 2014, 12:35:51 AM »
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    Hello, I have this phone and REALLY want to follow these steps to give me more system memory.  I am an extreme newbie to altering my phone.  I am at step 3 and have no clue where to type this command.  I would greatly appreciate more specific instructions, including any additional tools I may need to accomplish this task.

    Thank You in Advance!

    EDIT: Nevermind I figured it out.  The guide assumed knowledge new users don't have.  The commands are done from the windows command feature on your computer;  the phone will be in the clockwork recovery mode when all these commands are sent.  Then everything works fine.
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    Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

    « Reply #36 on: March 28, 2014, 06:53:38 AM »
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    Got it done! Thank You for this great Mod!!! :)

    A couple of notes from when I did the procedure.

    On Step 7

    7) after the reboot...
    adb shell
    print all did nothing, I think it was supposed to be >> cat /proc/partitions- you should only see 19 partitions returned! If you still see 23, you didn't complete step #5 correctly, or possibly your phone isn't rooted.
    fdisk /dev/block/mmcblk0


    Step 8, I Just got error messages here, but the OP said he was not sure these were needed, so I just skipped to Step 9, then rebooted and did the restore, and it worked. :)

    My System partition wound up being 1002 MB, and Internal memory is 166 MB, and everything works. :)

    Thanks again for this great mod!!!  :)
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    Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

    « Reply #37 on: March 28, 2014, 12:06:07 PM »
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    Got it done! Thank You for this great Mod!!! :)

    A couple of notes from when I did the procedure.

    On Step 7

    7) after the reboot...
    adb shell
    print all did nothing, I think it was supposed to be >> cat /proc/partitions- you should only see 19 partitions returned! If you still see 23, you didn't complete step #5 correctly, or possibly your phone isn't rooted.
    fdisk /dev/block/mmcblk0


    Step 8, I Just got error messages here, but the OP said he was not sure these were needed, so I just skipped to Step 9, then rebooted and did the restore, and it worked. :)

    My System partition wound up being 1002 MB, and Internal memory is 166 MB, and everything works. :)

    Thanks again for this great mod!!!  :)

    I noted this and others have too. The guide assumes knowledge new users do not have (unless they happen to be familiar with Bash or other similar shells as well as various standard Linux commands like fdisk). I really should have taken notes while I went through this because I think I hit that issue too.

    cat /proc/partitions works just fine. I think the OP intended "print all" as command to be given from within fdisk (which also works). As such, "fdisk" should have come before rather than after.
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    Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

    « Reply #38 on: March 28, 2014, 05:19:38 PM »
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    after i repartitioned my phone is slowww. i am a newb but its rooted and running arearom. should i just go through the steps again?
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    « Reply #39 on: March 29, 2014, 02:37:19 AM »
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    If your memory sizes are correct, System Memory 1002 MB, and Internal Memory 166MB, then there should be no need to do the procedure again. What you might want to do is go into recovery and do a Factory Restore, then after you go through the steps to setup the phone, do a backup, then go into recovery and install the Arearom.
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    This may sound like a stupid question but be that as it may, I'm lost. Where do I enter in the commands? Phone has been rooted, and I want to partition the memory but need to know where the steps start.

    The commands are entered into cmd prompt in Windows (Win + R > Type cmd > press Enter). ADB has to be installed or you could do a cd to the folder where adb.exe is in the folder with the root tool.


    An easier way to start the cmd terminal with the proper path would be to just open the folder where you have ADB installed, hold down the Shift key, then right-click and select "Open command window here".
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    « Reply #41 on: March 29, 2014, 12:11:09 PM »
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    That did the trick!! i thought i messed up the values because i got some different responses during the steps. thanks a bunch
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    I'm still slowly learning the mod process, I did get rooted via 4/shared/poot methods w/o computer. I've gotten many other areas figured out (figured) id start with basics)>:D. So now I'm about to delv into the flashing aspects. Working with ROM Toolbox pro, busybox and a few other "Swiss brick army knive" apps. Not worried about bricking, of course id rather not. Either way I'm having issues with some apps and some data (contacts) etc. That are on the device like 5times lol I've altered so many things that files made files. How do I gain/ transfer data to my pc, no internet. from my phone alter/delete the triplicates and transfer it back? Contacts are the only thing I don't have the ability to reinstall. I just want to wipe the phone clean and start fresh. Apps / data /sms/ pics are all saved or safely backed up. Just can't get contacts as stupid as it sounds elude me. I also want to reformat the partitions for more memory via A51 forum posts. Btw thanks for all the great info gathered here and for the great minds that tinker and share.

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    Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

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    I'm still slowly learning the mod process, I did get rooted via 4/shared/poot methods w/o computer. I've gotten many other areas figured out (figured) id start with basics)>:D. So now I'm about to delv into the flashing aspects. Working with ROM Toolbox pro, busybox and a few other "Swiss brick army knive" apps. Not worried about bricking, of course id rather not. Either way I'm having issues with some apps and some data (contacts) etc. That are on the device like 5times lol I've altered so many things that files made files. How do I gain/ transfer data to my pc, no internet. from my phone alter/delete the triplicates and transfer it back? Contacts are the only thing I don't have the ability to reinstall. I just want to wipe the phone clean and start fresh. Apps / data /sms/ pics are all saved or safely backed up. Just can't get contacts as stupid as it sounds elude me. I also want to reformat the partitions for more memory via A51 forum posts. Btw thanks for all the great info gathered here and for the great minds that tinker and share.

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    I think Titanium Backup Pro can pull certain things out of backups, but not sure.
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    Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

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    Awesome Work on the memory hack!!!      I ran into a few problems, obviously you addressed each one in the post, I being a smart*** knew better than to read them, lol!! I was wrong but I started over and addressed the small things like control C.  why I was thinking I could reboot from adb shell is beyond me. Now have .95 gb of storage space instead of a lonely 256 mb.  Thanks!!!
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    Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

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    Just wanted to say thanks a ton for this. This phone was barely usable with the limited storage space. I had to waste so much time managing how much data my apps were using.

    I followed your steps and now everything is great! For anyone reading the thread that is debating whether to go through with it, I highly recommend it!
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    Rjgee, when you decided to repartition why did you decide to change the format of p20 to from ext4 to fat32?
     
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    ...couldn't I just repartition p20 and p21 to be 1.2g, ext4, and mount it to /data ?


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    ...#not even sure if this is necessary...
    adb shell
    mke2fs -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p21
    mke2fs -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p22
    mke2fs -t fat32 /dev/block/mmcblk0p20

    BTW. Thanks for establishing partitioning method for the lgl38c.
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    « Reply #47 on: April 19, 2014, 09:23:29 AM »
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    I recalculated the start/end cylinders so I have ~670MB of data & 512MB internal storage.

    Could you share what values you used?
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    « Reply #48 on: April 19, 2014, 09:37:42 AM »
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    I saw it referenced as fat32 somewhere.... or at least I though I did.  ;D


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    Rjgee, when you decided to repartition why did you decide to change the format of p20 to from ext4 to fat32?
     
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    ...couldn't I just repartition p20 and p21 to be 1.2g, ext4, and mount it to /data ?


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    ...#not even sure if this is necessary...
    adb shell
    mke2fs -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p21
    mke2fs -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p22
    mke2fs -t fat32 /dev/block/mmcblk0p20

    BTW. Thanks for establishing partitioning method for the lgl38c.
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    Re: Hacking the LGL38C - More app install space - How to

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  • notahack

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    I totally hosed this up  >:(

    I can't mount /emmc or /data

    i was able to upload rom zips but i suspect with not able to mount that does me little good


    could someone help me to recreate the partition or square it away?

    here is my beautiful handiwork

    Disk /dev/block/mmcblk0: 1954 MB, 1954545664 bytes
    1 heads, 16 sectors/track, 238592 cylinders, total 3817472 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes

                  Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks  Id System
    /dev/block/mmcblk0p1   *           1          40          20  4d Unknown
    Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary
    /dev/block/mmcblk0p2              41        2047        1003+ 45 Unknown
    Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary
    /dev/block/mmcblk0p3            2048        4095        1024  46 Unknown
    Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary
    /dev/block/mmcblk0p4            4096     3817471     1906688   5 Extended
    Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary
    /dev/block/mmcblk0p5          131072      139263        4096  47 Unknown
    /dev/block/mmcblk0p6          139264      147455        4096  2c Unknown
    /dev/block/mmcblk0p7          147456      155647        4096  58 Unknown
    /dev/block/mmcblk0p8          155648      204799       24576  77 Unknown
    /dev/block/mmcblk0p9          204800      221183        8192  48 Unknown
    /dev/block/mmcblk0p10         221184      229375        4096  4a Unknown
    /dev/block/mmcblk0p11         229376      237567        4096  4b Unknown
    /dev/block/mmcblk0p12         237568      294911       28672  49 Unknown
    /dev/block/mmcblk0p13         294912      352255       28672  6c Unknown
    /dev/block/mmcblk0p14         352256     1130495      389120  83 Linux
    /dev/block/mmcblk0p15        1130496     1146879        8192  83 Linux
    /dev/block/mmcblk0p16        1146880     1294335       73728  83 Linux
    /dev/block/mmcblk0p17        1294336     1310719        8192  60 Unknown
    /dev/block/mmcblk0p18        1310720     1327103        8192  83 Linux
    /dev/block/mmcblk0p19        1327104     1351679       12288  6b Unknown
    /dev/block/mmcblk0p20        1351696     1691727      170016  83 Linux
    /dev/block/mmcblk0p21        3776464     3817471       20504  83 Linux
    /dev/block/mmcblk0p22        1691744     3776447     1042352  83 Linux

    Partition table entries are not in disk order


    Would someone post a print all of what it should look like after the mod?

     
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