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    I have looked everywhere out there for a way for e to update to kitkat on my SCH-S968C straight talk samsung galaxy s3. But I found nothing. How do I update to kitkat on this phone? Is there a way? Thank you
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    Re: Kitkat for s3? Help please

    « Reply #1 on: January 12, 2015, 08:38:08 PM »
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    I have looked everywhere out there for a way for e to update to kitkat on my SCH-S968C straight talk samsung galaxy s3. But I found nothing. How do I update to kitkat on this phone? Is there a way? Thank you
    Yes, first I need to know if you have the H1 or the H2 baseband. Go to your system settings/about phone and go down to your baseband version, it will end in H1 or H2. If it is H1 then download the towelroot app and use it to gain root, you can find it here at AA51 in the fuel forums or you can request it from daddy366(co-admin) here. Then go to playstore and download superSU app and install it. Then download CWM 6.0.4.5 d2vzw.img for Verizon or the latest TWRP for d2vzw, make sure you get .img not the .zip and store it in the root of your internal sdcard then download the EZ Recovery for VZW app and install it, open EZ Recovery(grant it superuser permission if prompted), select custom, then press the grey three dot button and go to where you stored the recovery img and select it, when it takes you back to the EZ Recovery screen press flash then press reboot recovery, this will take you to the recovery you flashed, when it boots go to backup/restore and make a nandroid backup of your rooted stock OS then you can reboot to system and go find a ROM and Gapps for your device and store them in the root of your extsd card. There are quite a few ROMs for this device, you will find most of them at XDA Developers in the Verizon S3 forums, there are no ROMs for straight talk but the Verizon ROMs run on our device because our stock firmware is d2tfnvzw and the custom ROMs are d2vzw and d2lte(unified), the unified ROMs run on all S3 variants. The older d2vzw ROMs in kit kat work decent but the newer d2lte are better, there is even CM12 lollipop but these ROMs have come to require a SIM to recieve data, any SIM will work even if its not active, even a regular SIM trimmed down to fit micro slot, but the only SIM that gets everything working properly is a Verizon 4g SIM that is OTA programmed through the phone by dialing *228(this only works safely when done on CM12 not CM11) If a non Verizon SIM is used then you'll need a third party text app for MMS because stock MMS doesn't work and a third party camera app for some of the ROMs, some don't have stock camera issues and work fine, there is also a way to set Hangouts to work for MMS on some of the ROMs instead of using third party. Once you pick your ROM and Gapps and have them on extsd then use the EZ Recovery to boot to recovery then if you haven't made a nandroid backup in recovery then do so now before you go to the wipes, then go to wipe data/factory reset and select it then select yes, when its done select wipe cache then select yes, when its done go to advanced and select it then select wipe dalvik cache then select yes, when its done go back to main menu and select install zip from sdcard, then select install from sdcard1 then select your ROM zip then select yes, when its done flashing, select install zip from sdcard1 again and select your Gapps then select yes, when its done go back to main menu and reboot to system, it will be slow the first time give it time to load, when it loads go thru setup wiz like new then you'll be in your system up and running, get it setup the way you want with apps and settings then use EZ recovery to boot to recovery again and make a backup of your custom ROM so you'll have a stock and a custom nandroid backup and you'll be set. You can use a file manager and go to your extsd card and go to your clockworkmod/backup folder and rename your backups to stock and custom, your stock will be the earlier date and time and custom will be the later.

    If you have the H2 then you will have to start at downloading the H1 stock tar  from Motorheads private server here at AA51, when you have it downloaded save it to pc, then download Odin for pc here or from XDA and install to pc, download your USB drivers for samsung phones and install to pc, go to system settings on your phone and turn on debug mode in developer options, if developer options aren't showing then go to the about phone option and go down to build number and press it real fast about ten times and this will enable the developer options, when you've got debug on then make sure battery has full charge, power the device off, starting with device off press the vol down, home and power buttons and hold them when you see the caution screen, press volume up to go to download mode, with your device in download mode Open Odin on your pc(if you happen to have Samsung Kies installed on pc make sure it is fully closed and not running in the background), using your stock usb cable that came with your phone connect to usb port on pc, if Odin recognizes your device it will show a blue or yellow comm box, click the PDA or AP button (different depending on your version of Odin) then browse to where you stored the stock tar on your pc and select it, when it is showing in the slot click start in Odin, this will flash the stock tar, don't touch anything, when its done you will have a green pass, your device will reboot into the stock H1 firmware, its exactly the same as H2, only the kernel is different, its patched so that the root methods don't work that's why we downgrade to H1 to gain root, now that you have an H1 device you are ready to go back to the top and start from rooting with towelroot and continue from there.

    If you have trouble getting Odin to recognize your device and you don't have a comm box then try different usb ports, verify that drivers installed properly, restart pc to verify drivers install, make sure you are using your stock cable, sometimes the usb drivers must be uninstalled then reinstalled before they work properly.
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    Re: Kitkat for s3? Help please

    « Reply #2 on: January 14, 2015, 08:26:10 PM »
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    It has H2. So can you please guide me through the steps on how to get H1? and is it safe? Im on a straight talk phone using verizon towers.
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    Re: Kitkat for s3? Help please

    « Reply #3 on: January 14, 2015, 11:35:27 PM »
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    It has H2. So can you please guide me through the steps on how to get H1? and is it safe? Im on a straight talk phone using verizon towers.
    Yes it is safe, I have the same device, I'm usually at XDA, I've helped more than a few fellow straight talkers do this, my post above actually has every step to the details, following that should get you where you want to be, pm me here(I might be a while answering) or at XDA Developers, I'm usually on the help thread helping other users and noobs so you'll have better luck getting in contact with me there, I have the same username there also find me and PM me, if you do a search in XDA for the "straight talk sch-s968c info" thread or the "How to root sch-s968c" thread you'll find me, I have recent posts at the end of that thread, click my username and pm me when you are ready.

    First go to Motorheads private server here and grab the H1 firmware for this device, he has it for download on his server, its the H1 stock tar. Save it to your pc. Install your usb drivers, they are everywhere for free downloads, googling will give you download links for the drivers or you can get them here on AA51 in the forums if you search.

    Download and install Odin 3.09 on your pc then pm me here or at XDA when you have the stock tar, drivers and Odin installed and ill walk you through it or you can read in the forums about how to use Odin, you will virtually be doing the same thing as the root process for the centura here that daddy366 posted for the centura, the directions are the same except with your S3 you will have autoreboot checked instead of unchecked like with the centura and you will be using the stock H1 tar instead of the file used for centura.

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    Re: Kitkat for s3? Help please

    « Reply #4 on: January 15, 2015, 10:29:31 AM »
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    Here is a link for the H1 tar, I tested it so it should be a working link, I have a copy I can post for you somewhere if I need to
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    I will assume you have your drivers installed already since you tried cydiaimpactor already, you can use cydia if you would prefer instead of towelroot since you already have it installed.
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    Re: Kitkat for s3? Help please

    « Reply #5 on: January 16, 2015, 04:17:53 PM »
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    I have looked everywhere out there for a way for e to update to kitkat on my SCH-S968C straight talk samsung galaxy s3. But I found nothing. How do I update to kitkat on this phone? Is there a way? Thank you
    Ok? I'll assume you got it or gave up? Just checking, I never leave anyone hanging.

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    Re: Kitkat for s3? Help please

    « Reply #6 on: January 19, 2015, 05:02:42 PM »
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    Can you pm me please on here or xda deveplopers?
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    Re: Kitkat for s3? Help please

    « Reply #7 on: January 20, 2015, 08:48:47 PM »
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    And after I root how do i install CWM and custom roms on my device safely
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    Re: Kitkat for s3? Help please

    « Reply #8 on: January 20, 2015, 09:25:04 PM »
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    And after I root how do i install CWM and custom roms on my device safely
    The safest way is to download the EZ Recovery for VZW app or Flashify from Playstore.  Then download CWM or TWRP for verizon in .img format then use the EZ recovery or Flashify to flash the .img file

    For more experienced users, change the name of your recovery img file to "recovery.img", place the recovery img in root of internal sd, download/install terminal emulator,  open terminal, grant superuser if prompted, in terminal

    Type-   su    , then press enter(grant superuser when prompted)

    Type-   dd if=/sdcard/recovery.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p18    , then press enter

    Type-   reboot recovery      , then press enter

    This will take you to recovery, in recovery make your nandroid backup and reboot.
    ***NOTE*** don't mess up the commands, you will brick your phone!


    Also for experienced users, it is wise with this device to save a copy of your efs folder and save to extsd and on PC, then backup your IMEI by doing a nvdatabackup in terminal emulator open terminal emulator, in terminal

    Type-   su     , then press enter(grant superuser when prompted)

    Type-    reboot nvbackup     , then press enter

    This will backup your IMEI, it will automatically be placed in a safe place that will survive through any flashes and wipes, it won't be erased, some ROMs tend to wipe out the IMEI on these phones and kills all mobile connectivity (calling and data) if you have not backed up your IMEI with a nvdatabackup then if this happens to you then your device is dead and you won't be able to fix it.

    If this happens to you then all you have to do is copy back over the efs folder that you saved  then open terminal emulator, in terminal


    Type-    su      , then press enter (grant superuser)

    Type-    reboot nvrestore      , then press enter

    This will restore your IMEI, you will have to make another nvdatabackup the same way you did the first time  because the backup you made will be erased in the restoration process so to keep yourself backed up make another.

    ****NOTE- This only works on the ST S3 with th Qualcomm chipset, use the "Phone info" app or the "Samsung Phone Info" app from Playstore to find out if you have a qcom or exynos chipset.


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    Re: Kitkat for s3? Help please

    « Reply #9 on: January 22, 2015, 11:10:47 AM »
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    This will backup your IMEI, it will automatically be placed in a safe place that will survive through any flashes and wipes, it won't be erased, some ROMs tend to wipe out the IMEI on these phones and kills all mobile connectivity (calling and data) if you have not backed up your IMEI with a nvdatabackup then if this happens to you then your device is dead and you won't be able to fix it.

    Actually, that's not ENTIRELY true... The device I'm using now was NVbricked at one point. I managed to fix it, without f#%@ing my IMEI on the network. If I can get ahold of a ST S3, I may be able to render the QCN files for future restoration. (BTW, THE Exynos devices use a Qcom modem, so they'll work too)

    REWRITING NVDATA IS POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS!
    The modem is built into the SoC, and writing directly to it poses serious risks. I recommend learning all you can before doing so.
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    Re: Kitkat for s3? Help please

    « Reply #10 on: January 22, 2015, 05:25:45 PM »
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    This will backup your IMEI, it will automatically be placed in a safe place that will survive through any flashes and wipes, it won't be erased, some ROMs tend to wipe out the IMEI on these phones and kills all mobile connectivity (calling and data) if you have not backed up your IMEI with a nvdatabackup then if this happens to you then your device is dead and you won't be able to fix it.

    Actually, that's not ENTIRELY true... The device I'm using now was NVbricked at one point. I managed to fix it, without f#%@ing my IMEI on the network. If I can get ahold of a ST S3, I may be able to render the QCN files for future restoration. (BTW, THE Exynos devices use a Qcom modem, so they'll work too)

    REWRITING NVDATA IS POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS!
    The modem is built into the SoC, and writing directly to it poses serious risks. I recommend learning all you can before doing so.
    Thanks, I will inform the guys at XDA that have said the nvbackup doesn't work on the Exynos devices, that's good info.

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    Re: Kitkat for s3? Help please

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    This will backup your IMEI, it will automatically be placed in a safe place that will survive through any flashes and wipes, it won't be erased, some ROMs tend to wipe out the IMEI on these phones and kills all mobile connectivity (calling and data) if you have not backed up your IMEI with a nvdatabackup then if this happens to you then your device is dead and you won't be able to fix it.

    Actually, that's not ENTIRELY true... The device I'm using now was NVbricked at one point. I managed to fix it, without f#%@ing my IMEI on the network. If I can get ahold of a ST S3, I may be able to render the QCN files for future restoration. (BTW, THE Exynos devices use a Qcom modem, so they'll work too)

    REWRITING NVDATA IS POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS!
    The modem is built into the SoC, and writing directly to it poses serious risks. I recommend learning all you can before doing so.

    What do you mean by its dangerous to rewrite nvdata?  Are you saying there  are dangers to using the nvbackup and nvrestore?

    As for modem, I wouldn't even begin to think of writing anything to the modem, backup and restore and that's it, this crazy device model is sensitive enough just in flashing, its fairly easy to soft brick this one for some reason, it needs its own custom ROMs but I'm not up to doing all of that.

    But I am working on getting my system together little by little so I can play with building from source for this device at some point, not quite there yet though, I'm trying to get familiar with Linux, I'm still new to Linux, gotta start  somewhere though.

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    Re: Kitkat for s3? Help please

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    nvbackup and nvrestore are fine, those are built-in functions. I'm referring to using QPST to rewrite the nvdata entirely.
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    Re: Kitkat for s3? Help please

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    I think I've read some about QPST at XDA, it involved another method for restoring IMEI on other S3's but I decided to stay away from that,  too risky. I'm not sure but I think there was something about using the unbrick.img that mentioned something about QPST, but I'm not sure, I was reasearching a lot at that time so its kinda jumbled up here, I wasn't going back to it unless I absolutely had to with no other options.

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    Re: Kitkat for s3? Help please

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    nvbackup and nvrestore are fine, those are built-in functions. I'm referring to using QPST to rewrite the nvdata entirely.
    Which brings a question to mind that I've been thinking about. What specific parts of a devices "firmware" is actually native to the device and not specifically a part of any ROM, in other words from flash to flash and wipe to wipe while using custom ROMs what parts of the "firmware" stay with the device no matter what custom ROM you use, thus actually being "firmware" where the rest is carried by the ROMs and would actually be "software", technically?

    What part of a devices system and firmware cannot be viewed, copied or deleted through a file manager?

    Are there any parts that can't be manipulated, added or removed through terminal emulator(I would imagine not much if any at all but if so its certain to be very important)?

    What parts of firmware reside in the devices hardware itself instead of system or data partition and would still be there(even though the device would certainly be unusable in this state) even if no ROM or Gapps were present?

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    Re: Kitkat for s3? Help please

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    Bootloaders, modem nvdata, the modem partition (this is mounted, but only for the  (and radio)
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    Re: Kitkat for s3? Help please

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    That's pretty much what I had put together for myself without searching very much, its the only parts that made sense to me. Thanks
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    Re: Kitkat for s3? Help please

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    @motorhead, I'm trying to find the d2spr that you spoke of last night. Were you saying that they fixed GPS or the SIM dependency? I want to find it and take a look to see what was done so it can be applied for us on ST. Do you know which ROM or ROMs it is? Where exactly do I find it or what they did, I'm looking through threads but I don't see it anywhere.

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    Re: Kitkat for s3? Help please

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    I'll ask around among the devs that I know. Someone's bound to know what's up.
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    Re: Kitkat for s3? Help please

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    Thanks bro, you're a good man.  I'm hoping we can get this straight, one question though.

    The d2tmo guys are using d2att ROMs, they just have to flash a rilblob.zip for their device and edit build prop, could the d2tfnvzw devices potentially do the same with these d2spr ROMs if we pull some rilblobs from our stock ROM or one of the d2vzw ROMs and apply them to d2spr then edit build prop? Just a thought in case the fix can't be dug out, a shortcut will work for me if I can't directly fix our ROMs.

    I'm in contact with some d2vzw devs on this and they want to get their hands on the d2spr fix also.

    Oh yeah, you never said whether it was GPS or SIM that they fixed, either or both is good enough though, anything to get a step closer.

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    Re: Kitkat for s3? Help please

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    It was he SIM card handling IIRC.
    I think I found the ROMs, I could only find one strain of CM12 d2spr, I'm assuming that's gonna work because Sprint is CDMA and if they can run CM12 at all then it must have the SIM removed, unless the Sprint S3 is 4g which I didn't think of till now so I haven't checked if it is. If Sprint S3 is 3g then the solution is in there somewhere

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    Re: Kitkat for s3? Help please

    « Reply #22 on: January 26, 2015, 05:29:14 PM »
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    Ok, question, what is this IIRC, is it some kind of ROM or is it some form of IRC chat? Is what you told me a ROM I'm looking for or am I looking for somewhere that the d2spr devs discuss different working concepts and ideas and share information?  I feel like I'm going in circles looking for one thing when I should be looking for another, is it a ROM I'm looking for or not? I've learned quite a lot but I'm not a dev or even close to being one by any means, I'm just now getting a pc system under me and im not setup with it yet but that's my goal,  dev talk is over my head right now because I haven't dealt with enough of it, it might as well be chinese to me, I might pick out a word here and there but I still don't understand the language yet, give me a year and it will be different but until then I must defer to the guidance of those wth more experience.

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    Re: Kitkat for s3? Help please

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    Ok, question, what is this IIRC, is it some kind of ROM or is it some form of IRC chat? Is what you told me a ROM I'm looking for or am I looking for somewhere that the d2spr devs discuss different working concepts and ideas and share information?  I feel like I'm going in circles looking for one thing when I should be looking for another, is it a ROM I'm looking for or not? I've learned quite a lot but I'm not a dev or even close to being one by any means, I'm just now getting a pc system under me and im not setup with it yet but that's my goal,  dev talk is over my head right now because I haven't dealt with enough of it, it might as well be chinese to me, I might pick out a word here and there but I still don't understand the language yet, give me a year and it will be different but until then I must defer to the guidance of those wth more experience.

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    Re: Kitkat for s3? Help please

    « Reply #24 on: January 26, 2015, 11:06:10 PM »
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    Ok, question, what is this IIRC, is it some kind of ROM or is it some form of IRC chat? Is what you told me a ROM I'm looking for or am I looking for somewhere that the d2spr devs discuss different working concepts and ideas and share information?  I feel like I'm going in circles looking for one thing when I should be looking for another, is it a ROM I'm looking for or not? I've learned quite a lot but I'm not a dev or even close to being one by any means, I'm just now getting a pc system under me and im not setup with it yet but that's my goal,  dev talk is over my head right now because I haven't dealt with enough of it, it might as well be chinese to me, I might pick out a word here and there but I still don't understand the language yet, give me a year and it will be different but until then I must defer to the guidance of those wth more experience.

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    Oh!!!! Lol, DUH! sorry I've never been good with all these txt forms and abbreviations, they ALWAYS go over my head, now I feel like an IDIOT! I should have caught that, just how you put it out there made it seem like it was part of a ROM designation. That's what I get for being too literal thinking and logical, sometimes its the simple things that blow by me because I'm so focused on the complex like I've got blinders on.

      That being said, I assume I found the right ROMs then, you WERE speaking of the d2spr CM12, correct? That's what I dug up and passed upstream, if I've got the right ROMs then we should be able to make something happen

    Thanks again, forgive my ignorance there, lol. Can't believe I didn't catch that one. Haha

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